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Jaime Rangel of the anti-enforcement FWD.us on the Martha Zoller Show, July 7, 2022 #DACA Transcript

July 10, 2022 By D.A. King

Illegal alien DACA recipients rally for “equity.” Photo, 2021 Twitter.

 

A note for beginners: Jaime Rangel is an illegal alien who lives in the Dalton, GA. area. He has worked for the notorious, corporate-funded GALEO Inc., has lobbied in the Georgia Capitol against passage of legislation designed to make life difficult in Georgia for illegal employers and illegal aliens. As a staffer for the billionaire lobbyist company, ‘FWD.us,’ he now lobbies here in Georgia and in Washington D.C. against immigration enforcement and for a repeat of the failed 1986 “one-time” immigration amnesty. He can work legally in the U.S. now because Obama’s illegal DACA decree granted him and about 700,000 other illegal aliens a “work permit.” If he worked before DACA, he worked illegally .

Rangel is the darling of the liberal media that is constantly helping in the well-funded push for another amnesty.

Related: More on GALEO Inc. here and here and here.

Here is a newspaper column with Rangel’s name as author published in the liberal Dalton Daily Citizen in 2019. Here is my response to that column. He has several more. Most newspaper editors in Georgia do not run responses to anti-enforcement goop anymore.

Related: A reminder from the liberal AJC on the label “anchor babies” – children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens – is used: “…Rangel’s younger brother, Eric, was born in America, making him a U.S. citizen. And Eric has sponsored their parents, helping them get lawful permanent residency (green cards) here.” – AJC story here. Here is how that works.

 

Link to interview.

 

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Martha Zoller: (00:09)
Jaime Rangel is joining me right now. And, um, Jaime, is it Jaime or is it (H)aime?

Jaime Rangel: (00:15)
Well, Martha, I’ve grown up in northwest Georgia practically my whole life, and I’ve been called both Jaime and Jaime, and I take no offense. So, uh-

Martha: (00:22)
Oh okay, great.

Jaime Rangel: (00:24)
… uh, look. So I’m-

Martha: (00:24)
Thanks.

Jaime Rangel: (00:24)
… I’m down with whatever, whatever y’all wanna call me, Jaime or Jaime, I’m perfectly fine with that.

Martha: (00:29)
That’s great. And you’re with FWD.us, and I wanted to, for you to give people just kind of an update on the cases related to DACA, because we’re coming up of 10 years of DACA. Uh, there’s, there’s cases in the courts right now, I know you’ve been very involved in that, so, can you give us an update?

Jaime Rangel: (00:47)
Yeah, so, um, and in fact before we went onto the show, like, um, there was b- a debriefer that was on, and it kind of explained it already. There is a, a decision… I mean, I’m, I’m sorry, let me back up. There is a court, um, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday heard an appeal from the admi- from the administration and MALDEF, [inaudible 00:01:06] and MALDEF, um, to appeal the decision from the lower court in Texas that is trying to end the program of DACA on the basis of the Constitutionality.

Jaime Rangel: (01:15)
Um, given a Senate hearing, this fifth circuit is a very antagonistic court, it’s not really a good court that represents the view of 75% of the country that wants a solution for DACA recipients who want the immigrants to stay. And we believe the outcome could come out ugly, and the DACA program could be in a situation recipient of the program, of the very popular program, will not be able to renew the work permit. Will not be able to go to our schools and teach our students, will not be able to go to our hospitals and heal those, and heal those that are sick. And they will not be able to contribute to the economy.

Jaime Rangel: (01:54)
But it’s a very scary situation for recipients not just in Georgia but around the country.

Martha: (01:55)
So overwhelming I think most people, and if you explain what a DACA kid is, that’s a kid that has been brought in the United States with their parents, their parents have brought them here illegally, but basically they have only known the United States as their home. And what, you know, even among people like me who are very much, uh, have a problem with the way our immigration system is right now, and I, I think we have way too many illegal, way too much illegal immigration into this country, and that we have lots of things we need to fix, okay?

Martha: (02:29)
But I see, you know, that this is a group of people that, that have been expected to have some kind of, uh, grace, from the United States of America. And so, and they have for the last 10 years. Two questions. This could have been codified in law, there have been opportunities. I mean, at the beginning of the Trump administration there was an offer from President Trump that if you could give us some money for the border wall, we’ll give you some protection for DACA. And that was, that was not dealt with.

Martha: (03:00)
We seem to have this ongoing problem with Congress not being able to codify the things in law that they should, and then they just wait for the courts to decide things. So, you know, how do we get out of this mess?

Jaime Rangel: (03:13)
Yeah, and Martha, I just wanna echo, like, um, you’re not alone on the frustration. The frustration’s on both sides of the aisle. And you mentioned this program is very, very popular. And it’s just crazy that both sides of the aisle, and this, this, this bears the plot on both sides of the aisle of not being grown up, and this is the will of the American people.

Jaime Rangel: (03:30)
And it’s going to come a time, unfortunately, um, in this court, that whatever the decision happens that affects it, it’s going to wind up in the Supreme Court, uh, win or lose, and there’ll be a few that would then go to the Supreme Court, guaranteed. Um, but the reality is that Congress needs to wake up. And it’s unfortunate that we wait till things get ugly, and then Congress reacts, and it shouldn’t be like that, Martha, it really shouldn’t.

Jaime Rangel: (03:52)
Um, and I’ll give you an example, here in Georgia, we are, just an example of how we could be moving the immigration conversation the right way is that and herein Georgia, we, we worked with Representative Kasey Carpenter, a representative from the, the, who lives in the Fifth House District up in Dalton, who lives in a very conservative Congressional district, works with democrats to a, a, a variety, um, pro- to propose a legislation that allows DACA recipients to pay in-state tuition if, you know, they could prove, you know, that they grew up in Georgia, and which most of them have, and who are, you know, being here working hard to get in-state tuition.

Jaime Rangel: (04:27)
And that’s a good example of legislators working together doing the will of the people of Georgia, doing the will of the American people, and trying to push legislation forward. And at the end of the day, Martha, like it, Congress needs to act, they need to realize that, you know, the malarkey’s going to hit the fan, and if they don’t act, peoples’ lives are going to be devastated. And not just DACA recipients, we have to understand we work in different industries. We have a labor shortage right now in this country, we have an inflation problem in this country, there is no denying that.

Jaime Rangel: (04:57)
But passing immigration reform or allowing DACA recipients to be in this country, to have a piece of mind, helps curb that inflation, helps to continue contributing to the country. What, I’ll give you an example, we have $1.3 billion in spending power alone in Georgia, and we contribute 100 million into state and local taxes, in, in Georgia. I mean, come on, this will affect our state, um, it will only hurt our labor shortages, it would only hurt, uh, continue to hurt inflation if Congress does not wake and act.

Martha: (05:26)
So what can the average person do? ‘Cause we’re waiting for the courts right now. Um, but-

Jaime Rangel: (05:31)
Yeah.

Martha: (05:31)
… what can the average person do?

Jaime Rangel: (05:35)
Um, Martha, I think what the average person can do and should do is call their member of Congress and say, “You’ve got to stop bickering.” This is a group of people that over 75% of the country agrees should stay in this country, and we need a permanent legislative solution. People just need to pick up the phone and call their, their Congressman, and call their US senators to act. Because both sides need to come together, they need to grow up, and find a solution. I’m frustrated, Martha.

Jaime Rangal: (06:00)
About 90, uh, uh, and the, like you mentioned earlier, a lot of people are frustrated because it includes (laughs) every popular, um, program, and yet, Congress cannot act.

Martha: (06:10)
So, how does, uh, FWD, are they taking a position at all on the crossings at the border right now, and all of the, that sort of thing? Or, are they focused primarily on DACA?

Jaime Rangel: (06:23)
Right now we do, uh, we are focused, and a great, like, I would say a great, our goal is to fix our broken immigration system. We have issues at the border because our immigration system is broken, and we don’t have a way for people to come here through a legal process. And then the only process they have for example is to seek asylum. And when they get to the border to try to seek asylum, that process in itself is broken as can be.

Jaime Rangel: (06:45)
So our goal is to work together, uh, with people on, on the Hill, no matter what party affiliation, and to try to fix our broken immigration system. Right now, for example, I will say that DACA is on top of our, on top of our agenda. We’re trying to work with Congress to find a solution, we’ll try to work with the administration to find a solution. Because this is like I said earlier, this is going to be in a situation where recipients might not be able to renew once the Appeals Court makes a decision, and that’s a scary situation to be in right now.

Jaime Rangal: (07:15)
We’re talking about over 600,000 individuals around the country all of a sudden not being able to continue their work permit, um, and not being able to go to work. And um-

Martha: (07:24)
So-

Jaime Rangel: (07:24)
… and I would, I want the listeners to understand that renewing a work permit, we have to do it every two years. We have to show to the government we’re not criminals. And it’s a very tedious and expensive process, but yet we’re doing it because we’re given an opportunity to show the country who we really are, and that we’re just here to contribute to be a part of society, and to help our country grow.

Martha: (07:45)
So, um, what do you see as the next step here? Because, you know, I think that most people would want to see, uh, DACA codified into law so that people knew what the rules were. But also, you know, I think we need big changes in our immigration system, I think we need, you know, I was a big supporter of the Raise Act, okay, where I think that, that that got us in the right direction, because it actually got us to where we were going to clear out some of these green cards, and we were going to be able to, uh, be able to look at things a little bit more on a merit basis.

Martha: (08:19)
But it didn’t even get to a debate. We’ve got to actually have real debates on this, because if we don’t, we’re never going to solve this problem.

Jaime Rangel: (08:28)
Mar- Martha, I 100% agree, and, uh, this is why I wanted to come onto your show, because we need to have that dialogue. And I think the American people wanna hear that dialogue, they want to hear us talk about our broken immigration system through a different perspective, because unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation, um, first of all who DREAMERS are, of, like, of, of what we’re actually planning be here, to do, and um, people assume that it, that that get being legal or getting in line.

Jaime Rangel: (08:55)
Well for us, there is no line, unfortunately, there is no line for us to, you know, be part of this country, um, and find a, a pathway to citizenship. There is no, there’s no part of that. So-

Martha: (09:08)
So, so let me-

Jaime Rangel: (09:08)
… I do definitely agree with you for that.

Martha: (09:09)
… let me ask you a quick question. So the Trump proposal that he did at the beginning of his, of his time as president, which was basically allowing, uh, the, the DACA kids, as well as their parents, to get legal status, um, was that something you all were in favor of at the time?

Jaime Rangel: (09:28)
I’m sorry, can you repeat that again?

Martha: (09:29)
Uh, the Trump proposal at the beginning of his term in president, wh- as president, was actually, you know, the DACA kids at that time, I think the number was 670,000, I don’t remember exactly what the number was. But it also included their parents, a legal status for their parents. Um, was that something at the time you guys could have been in favor of? It never got to a legislative proposal, because Nancy Pelosi said “No” right out of the gate because they wanted to have funding for the wall included too.

Martha: (09:58)
But it sounded m- to me like a very reasonable proposal at the time.

Jaime Rangel: (10:03)
Um, unfortunately that, the legislation remained a proposal, so what we did during that time is that we worked with both sides of the aisle to move legislation forward and put that in writing, and move something uh, across the finish line. And um, that’s what we were doing at the time. We, we have to understand that we need to work together, and-

Martha: (10:20)
Yeah.

Jaime Rangel: (10:20)
… we understand we need to work together. And we’re going to continue doing that right now, and we’re going to continue pushing for legislative solutions that did reflect the will of the American people.

Martha: (10:29)
So if people want to know about, more about FWD, how can they do that?

Jaime Rangel: (10:33)
Sure thing. Um, well, it’s very simple, we have a very, a website that you can visit at FWD.us. Um, and we have a lot of good information there, and in fact, we just came out with a new report that extends, like, hm, uh, a report that it’s all about a decade of DACA for students, to careers and families. And it shows an overview of where DACA was just then going 10 years into the program. And it’s very interactive, for example, in Georgia we have a population of 20,000 individuals, the average age now is, and the average year they live in this country have been over 20 years.

Jaime Rangel: (11:08)
Uh, how 37,000 US citizens, and this is very key, is that 37,000 US citizens live with documentation. We have individuals who live in mixed-status families, where, let’s say, example, uh, my, for, for example, we have a brother who is a US citizen, but unfortunately he has a younger sister, um, is a DACA recipient. Because of a broken immigration system, you know, we had these mixed status families. So, and that’s for, that’s a key number there, I, I encourage people to go visit that website and learn more about, um, you know, about DACA recipients, uh, what is that for, and how we’re trying to work together to pass common sense solutions that represent the, the will of the American people.

Martha: (11:47)
Sounds great. Thank you so much, uh, Jaime, for being with us, Jaime Rangal from FWD.us, we appreciate you being with us today.

Jaime Rangel: (11:55)
Thank you, Martha, you have a blessed day. Thank you, thank you.

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Workforce Development Subcommittee holds its first meeting (House Higher Education) – Rep Chuck Martin, Chairman Episode 1

July 6, 2022 By D.A. King

Rep Chuck Martin, Chairman

Episode 1

“Georgia’s next decade of economic growth depends on implementing creative, bold and untraditional workforce solutions now.”

Rep Chuck Martin, Chairman

*Updated July 7, 2022 1:08 pm.

Media coverage here.

Workforce Development Meeting Notice-1

  • House Higher Education Committee here.

Today was the first meeting and intended to establish goals. There will be at least three more meetings with two of them outside the Capitol. To get a notice of future meetings, please send an email to the legislative office of committee Chairman Chuck Martin.

  • Georgia Chamber of Commerce statement on the subcommittee.
  • Rep Kasey Carpenter is a committee member.
  • Transcript link on the bottom.

Reminder: The Georgia Chamber of Commerce is pushing hard to pass legislation to dismantle existing state law so as to give illegal aliens living in Georgia the much lower instate tuition rate in taxpayer-funded colleges — while Americans and legal immigrants who live in other states are required to pay the higher out-of-state rate. Read about that here.

For the academic year 2019-2020, the average tuition & fees for Colleges in Georgia was $4,721 for in-state and $16,879 for out-of-state, according to collegetuitioncompare.com.

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You will need to know and understand who and what David Raynor is and be aware of the Georgia Chamber of Commerce Global Talent Initiative.  

David Raynor.

And you need to know that as a Chamber lobbyist in 2011, *Raynor lobbied against the private employer E-Verify component contained in HB 87 (The Illegal Immigration Reform and Enforcement Act of 2011) . I watched gleefully as he fell into a trap set by the House Judiciary (non civil) Committee Chairman Rich Golich when he answered a question from Golich about the reliability of E-Verify. I had provided official USCIS facts and data on E-Verify weeks before a Feb, 8, 2011 hearing on the bill and educated all of the Republican committee members on false opposition “facts” long before the hearing in which Raynor came up with a whopper about E-Verify having an error rate from “50% all the way up to in excess of 80.” I almost fell out of my chair from stifling my laugh.

I sadly lament the near total absence of pro-enforcement legislators in the Georgia Capitol today.

David Raynor testimony to House Judiciary non civil, Feb 8, 2011 Re; HB87 & E-Verify.

The liberal AJC “PolitiFact” hustlers gave Raynor a “half-true,” which was as false as Raynor’s ridiculous 2011 false testimony. See here for a view of the AJC today.

Related: Mark Krikorian at NRO noted the Chamber’s 2011 lies in an NRO post at the time. All concerned should expect similar coverage of Martin’s subcommittee this summer.

The Chamber of Commerce and the Farm Bureau were drawn out and forced to testify in open committee against enforcement, which is apparently something new. King reports that the Chamber lobbyist told the House Judiciary committee that the error rate of E-Verify was “50 percent all the way up to 80 percent” — which is hard to describe as anything other than a lie. Meanwhile, the lobbyist (it was Bryan Tolar) for the Georgia Agribusiness Council complained in committee that the (numerically unlimited) H-2A farmworker program was just too darn expensive: “The H2A is very good if you can afford it…the H2A visa is a Cadillac system — and not everyone can afford a Cadillac.” (At least they’ve admitted that it’s just about cheap labor.)

The entire 2011 NRO post is quite educational.

  • Georgia’s E-Verify laws are not enforced. We challenge anyone to point to a single sanction for violation.

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Why does this House subcommittee exist? Because this Chamber-instigated committee failed to produce the needed goop to pass these two bills and we discovered and exposed this Senate Resolution in time to stop it. So now in the “anything-for-a-buck” world of “Mo’ Money” politics in the Republican/Chamber-ruled state legislature the effort to dismantle existing laws designed to discourage illegal immigration must start over.

We note that Georgia is being over-populated while Gov Kemp endlessly screams he is “creating more jobs” while the cry in the legislature is “we need more workers and must eliminate “barriers to employment.'”

  • Archived video of the (virtual only) June 6, 2022 meeting. Note: The video does not begin until about 18:35 on the counter located on the bottom of the screen.
  • Transcript here from Rev.com)
  • More info pasted here for my own notes
  • Meanwhile, the Georgia Center for Opportunity has joined the Texas Public Policy Foundation and Louisiana’s Pelican Institute for Public Policy to create the *Alliance for Opportunity.

*Updated with clarification edit on David Raynor’s opposition to E-Verify component in HB 87 and addition of video of his 2011 testimony.

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Once judged too extreme for federal bench, former GALEO board member Dax Lopez appointed to Georgia’s Judicial Qualifications Commission #JQC

June 27, 2022 By D.A. King

DeKalb State Court Judge Dax Lopez. Image: Daily Signal

 

Lopez’s involvement as a member of the board of directors of the anti-enforcement GALEO after he became a state judge was the deal killer for federal bench confirmation in 2016.

 

The Georgia Supreme Court has announced the appointment of former DeKalb Co. Judge Dax Lopez to the Hearing Panel of the Judicial Qualifications Commission.

“López, a former DeKalb County State Court Judge now in private practice, will replace Jamala McFadden, who is completing five years of service on the JQC and was recently appointed by the Court to serve on the Board to Determine Fitness of Bar Applicants, which is part of the Court’s Office of Bar Admissions. López will begin his four-year term on July 1, 2022.

The Judicial Qualifications Commission is the constitutional body that educates Georgia judges about their ethical duties and conducts investigations and hearings regarding judges’ misconduct. The JQC’s Hearing Panel consists of one judge member, one attorney member, and one non-lawyer citizen member. The Hearing Panel adjudicates formal charges made against judges, makes recommendations to the Supreme Court as to disciplinary and incapacity orders against judges, and issues formal advisory opinions.” goes the Court’s media release.

Lopez was nominated to become a federal judge in Georgia’s Northern District by then President Barack Obama in 2015. The required Senate confirmation process ended in early 2016 when then Georgia Senator David Perdue refused to send in the “Blue Slip” granting his approval of the nomination. Perdue cited Lopez’ long history of aiding and assisting the rabidly anti-enforcement GALEO Inc and Lopez’ membership on the GALEO board as cause to doubt Lopez’ suitability as a federal judge.”…there were some things that gave me great concern with regard to naming him to a lifetime appointment to a federal bench” Perdue told Politico at the time.

Lopez served as Keynote speaker at a GALEO funder after he became a judge. Jane Fonda is a GALEO “Founding Friend.”

Image: GALEO Facebook

The Dustin Inman Society has tracked and recorded GALEO activities for nearly two decades and was proud to be invited to meet with Sen. Perdue’s senior staff and legal counsel and to provide information on GALEO, its Executive Director, Jerry Gonzalez, and Lopez’ involvement. Readers who are not familiar with the story or corporate-funded GALEO can see here for “a beginner’s guide” to the leftist group.

It usually amazes readers to know that Coca-Cola and Georgia Power are two of the corporations that fund GALEO.

Current GOP state Senator Jason Anavitarte is also a former GALEO board member.

 

 

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Georgia law requires all jailers to report incarcerated illegal aliens to DHS – but it’s not enforced *Repost from Jan 2021 OCGA 42-4-14

May 31, 2022 By D.A. King

 

“Immigration laws are the only laws that are discussed in terms of how to help people who break them.” Thomas Sowell 2017

Note: A version of hit essay was originally posted on the subscription news and opinion site, InsiderAdvantage.com (now James Magazine Online) January 26, 2021.

 

In 2011, Aurelio Mayo Perez, an illegal alien, was booked into the Cobb County jail for no driver’s license but released due to an immigration enforcement reduction edict from then-President Barack Obama. Two years later, Mayo Perez was charged with aggravated child molestation and rape. The name of the ten-year old girl he was convicted of repeatedly molesting is not available.

Last week, newly sworn Cobb County Sheriff Craig Owens held an elaborate press conference packed with invited anti-enforcement activists and proudly announced his termination of the 287(g) program. The Marietta Daily Journal described the event’s big finish with “…as the event ended, and a mariachi band began to play, the mood in the room was decidedly celebratory. The new sheriff even took to the floor and waltzed for a moment, reveling in his audience’s approval.”  Cobb County Deputy Sheriff Loren Lilly – killed by an unlicensed illegal alien driver in a 2007 traffic crash – was unable to attend.

Cobb County Sheriff, Craig Owens. Photo: Project Q.

Democrat Commission Chairwoman Lisa Cupid pronounced Owens’ decision “bold, necessary, and overdue.” Cobb’s new District Attorney, Flynn Broady weighed in with “this is going to make our community safer.” We recommend reading the entire MDJ report

Created by congress in 1996, and signed into law by Bill Clinton, the voluntary 287(g) program is a tool used to expand the authority of local law enforcement to locate and report to ICE illegal aliens, usually in county jails. It’s a deterrent. Then-Senator Joe Biden voted in favor of passage.

The liberal Atlanta Journal Constitution reports Owens claims “the program morphed into one that profiled immigrants through traffic stops, which resulted in them being deported on misdemeanor charges.” While Sheriff Owens – a former Cobb County policeman – is certainly free to smear his fellow law enforcement officers with accusations of profiling, he should understand that it’s illegal aliens who are deported and that removal is the punishment for illegal immigration, not traffic violations.

Jose Alfaro-Contraras, an illegal alien from El Salvador, was one of the gunmen in an April, 2015 armed robbery of the owner of a check-cashing store in Duluth. A year earlier, Alfaro-Contraras had been in the Gwinnett County jail on a shoplifting charge. He was released because “minor crime.”

The above examples are taken from a 2017 report “Jail records reveal immigrants not deported after minor crimes later commit worse ones” from Atlanta’s Fox Five TV News investigative reporter Randy Travis.

Related: According to the anti-enforcement Georgia Budget and Policy Institute, Georgia is home to more illegal aliens than green card holders.

In metro -Atlanta’s Gwinnett County, on his first day in office, Sheriff Keybo Taylor made his enforcement policy clear when he quit the 287(g) program: “What we will not be doing is notifying ICE of anybody’s immigration status in the jail or any of our facilities…” said Taylor at his own presser. He told a local NPR interviewer 287(g) is slanted towards “people of color.”

“So basically, what that program started to do was target, uh, you know, people of color that were in this country that’s undocumented, so, you know, it became, you know, a racist issue for me…”,

Gwinnett County Sheriff Keybo Taylor. Photo: Gwinnett Daily Post.

He says he would rather focus on gang members. I was curious, so I checked with experts on gangs in Gwinnett and the skin color concern Taylor expressed. But on that topic Sheriff Taylor apparently does have concerns about borders “…crime and criminals…they don’t, they do not respect borders, so, you know, it’s nothing to come from Atlanta to Gwinnett County…” says Taylor. Indeed.

In print and radio interviews, both sheriffs have done a remarkable job of learning and adhering to the anti-287(g) talking points distributed by the far-left. Below are some of those tips from a 2008 ACLU ‘toolkit.’

‘How to oppose 287(g) agreements in your state or locality’

*Always describe how police enforcement of immigration laws endangers public safety for everyone.

*Assert that local police of immigration laws will result in widespread racial profiling.

*Assert that immigration enforcement is the responsibility of the federal government.

*Assert that police resources are stretched thin already.

Georgia law as a ‘Plan B’ plan to address anti-enforcement sheriffs

Attention Georgia prosecutors, including Flynn Broady: Independent of 287(g), longstanding (2006) state law (OCGA 42-4-14) requires jailers to check the immigration status of incoming foreign prisoners. “If the foreign national is determined to be an illegal alien, the keeper of the jail or other officer shall notify the United States Department of Homeland Security, or other office or agency designated for notification by the federal government.”

Cobb County District Attorney, Flynn Broady. Photo: CobbCounty Courier.

The AJC – again

 In an entirely unbalanced, celebratory report on Cobb County Sheriff Craig Owens ending 287(g) the AJC recently told readers as a statement of fact “the program originally began to remove terrorists, as well as other violent criminals, from neighborhoods across the country.” But, as was noted here in December, the law establishing 287(g) program never limited it to applying only to terrorists or illegal aliens who were arrested for violent crimes.

The liberal AJC has not covered the fact that the above law is not enforced.

D.A. King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society.

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Republican Rep Bonnie Rich loses primary race in Gwinnett County – opposed voter security measure, HB 228

May 25, 2022 By D.A. King

Rep Bonnie Rich. Photo: Tn Star

Noting foreign status on drivers licenses and official ID would be a “scarlet letter…”

Rep Bonnie Rich has lost the race in the Republican Primary for the newly redrawn House District 100 seat. Rich, chairwoman of the House Republican Caucus, has represented House District 97 for the last four legislative sessions was beaten by state Rep. David Clark who is the (pre-redistricting) House District 98 representative.

A carefully protected favorite of Speaker David Ralston, Rep Rich is best known to pro-enforcement advocates as the lead opposition to HB 228 sponsored by Cherokee County Rep Charlice Byrd.

HB 228 was a simple, “belt and suspenders” bill that addresses voter ID security and the drivers licenses and ID Cards Georgia issues to foreigners here as immigrants, guest workers, foreign students – and about twenty thousand illegal aliens with DACA protection. These credentials are labeled “LIMITED TERM” and almost exactly the same as the ones commonly issued to U.S. citizens. Not many people, including most legislators, have any clue what “LIMITED TERM” means. Explanation: the valid term of the credential is timed to expire when the holders visa or “green card” runs out or renews.

HB 228 also addressed  the startling fact that there is nothing in state law that says these ID documents are excluded from acceptance as “proper identification” for voting purposes.

HB 228 also required the warning “BEARER NOT U.S. CITIZEN – NOT VOTER ID” to be added to the front of the LIMITED TERM credentials. Also, as mail-in vote security, the Department of Driver Services would begin a system in which the first two characters of the drivers license/ID Card numbers be “NC” on the cards issued to non-citizens. We would catch up with Alabama on that one.

Related: Popular “no-brainer” election integrity legislation, HB 228, apparently dead under the Gold Dome

“Limited Term” GA. drivers license issued to foreign nationals.

HB 228 died without a 2022 hearing or committee vote. In the process of killing the measure, the members of the House Special Committee on Election Integrity revealed a troubling lack of knowledge on the identity credentials Georgia issues and related immigration basics. Rich criticized the bill with the explanation that noting foreign status on ID credentials would be a “scarlet letter” for immigrants.

Rep Clark may present problems for pro-enforcement Georgians. He introduced a bill (HB 920) in the 2019-2020 session that would have allowed illegal aliens to access instate tuition in Georgia’s public colleges. Clark’s bill was not limited to illegal aliens with DACA status. We will watch to see if Clark, a member of the Georgia “Freedom Caucus,” submits similar legislation in the coming 2023-2024 legislative session.

Rich was endorsed in the race by House Speaker Pro Tempore Jan Jones (R), the second highest ranking member of the Georgia House.

*Updated 26 May with a blurb from the liberal AJC:

Ralston nemesis ousts colleague, but most lawmakers cruise in primary

“Buford state Rep. David Clark has been a pain in House Speaker David Ralston’s backside in recent years, and Tuesday he delivered another blow.

Clark ousted Rep. Bonnie Rich, R-Suwanee, in the Republican primary for the newly drawn House District 100 in Gwinnett, Forsyth and Hall counties. Rich chaired the House Redistricting Committee that drew the district maps.

Most incumbents cruised to easy wins on Tuesday in the new districts, which were drawn last year in such a partisan way that the candidate who wins the primary will likely win in the November general election as well.” Here.

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Former Acting ICE Director, Tom Homan: “When it comes to dealing with illegal immigration, Kemp has failed the people of Georgia and this nation”

May 16, 2022 By D.A. King

Photo: Twitter.

Tom Homan, acting ICE Director under President Trump has endorsed former U.S. Senator David Perdue in Georgia’s Republican Primary race.

Mr. Homan was the keynote speaker at the February, 2020 Dustin Inman Society event ‘Honoring Immigrants: A Pro-enforcement Conversation on Immigration’ in Atlanta and raised the issue of Gov Kemp’s defiance on his 2018 campaign promises then. We reminded all concerned about that fact last July with “Illegal immigration in Georgia: Former ICE Director Tom Homan Condemns Gov. Brian Kemp.”

We note that this announcement was posted on Twitter Friday, but we cannot find coverage of Homan’s support for Perdue or his criticism of Kemp in the that the liberal AJC.

A favor if somebody who still subscribes sends us a link to any story or blog post from the AJC editors?

We agree with Mr. Homan’s analysis of Kemp’s betrayal on illegal immigration in Georgia.

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Pro-enforcement voters in Georgia want to hear about illegal immigration – in Georgia

April 28, 2022 By D.A. King

GA Gov Brian Kemp (L), former U.S. Senator David Perdue (R) at April 24 gubenatorial candidate debate. Photo: WSB-TV.

 Gwinnett County Sheriff’s public defiance of state law on checking immigration status of foreign-born prisoners should be “an issue”

 

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With time running out before the Republican Primary, ending the pretense on Governor Kemp and the ludicrous premise that he has fulfilled all his 2018 campaign promises is long past due. He hasn’t. We point to Kemp’s detailed but narrow 2018 campaign promises on illegal immigration in Georgia.

Likewise, since primary challenger and former U.S. Senator Perdue has finally brought up Kemp’s “Big Truck Trick” as related to removing illegal aliens in last Sunday’s debate, it is past time for Perdue to let voters know if he would do anything as governor regarding the organized crime that is illegal immigration – in Georgia. If so, what, exactly?

This writer is one of many pro-enforcement Independents whose vote in 2022 does not depend on what yarn we hear from either side about what happened in the 2020 election debacle. We are laser-focused on illegal immigration in Georgia and the needless dangers and miseries it imposes on Georgians.

While vying for the 2018 GOP candidacy, Kemp did not promise to send Georgia’s National Guard to the border. As Mark Krikorian at the Center for Immigration Studies noted on NRO at the time, neither did he mention addressing the root cause of illegal immigration (spoiler: it’s  illegal employment).

But candidate Kemp did repeatedly pledge to go after “criminal illegals.” He promised to create a public registry of criminal illegal aliens. He put out a detailed outline of legislation he promised to send to the General Assembly entitled “Brian Kemp’s Track and Deport Plan.”

“As governor, conservative businessman Brian Kemp will create a comprehensive database to track criminal aliens in Georgia. He will also update Georgia law to streamline deportations from our jails and prisons” went the detailed assurance Kemp made on his 2018 campaign website.

None of it ever happened.

Related: Illegal immigration issue absent in eight-page, January 2022 Kemp campaign mailer

As this writer lamented last June (‘Kemp risks defeat by ignoring promises on illegal immigration action’), Kemp has alienated a significant number of voters by ignoring illegal immigration in Georgia. More so when he emphatically boasts that he has kept all his promises but responds to questions about his lack of action on criminal aliens in Georgia with “but the border…” as if all conservative voters are too dim to recognize the obfuscation.

Perhaps the most glaring example of executive abuse is Kemp’s refusal to direct his Attorney General to investigate and prosecute Georgia jailers who are in proud and public violation of a hard-fought public safety law regarding…criminal illegals.

The 2006 Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act (SB 529) created a state mandate that jailers check immigration status of foreigners in their jails and report illegal aliens to the feds. We invite all concerned to read the very short OCGA 42-4-14.

Then a state legislator, Kemp was Chairman of the Senate Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee that passed out the measure creating this regulation. “Many Georgians are “fed up” with illegal immigration,” he told the liberal AJC at the time. He voted in favor of final passage.

Compare the above-mentioned state law with the defiant public pledge made by Gwinnett County Sheriff Keybo Taylor– a jailer – at his swearing-in event on January 1, 2021: “What we will not be doing is notifying ICE of anybody’s immigration status in the jail or in any of our facilities.”

Newly elected sheriff Keybo Taylor speaks at a press conference at the Gwinnett County Jail on January 1, 2021. STEVE SCHAEFER FOR THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION. (AJC)

The Cobb Sheriff has taken a similar stance that was noted here last year – ‘Ga. Law: Jailers must report incarcerated illegal aliens to feds.’

Media silence

Over the course of 2021 this writer sent a “news tip” to virtually every news outlet in Atlanta on this matter. To our knowledge, the only news story on the topic came from the liberal AJC in the form of a celebratory item noting the one-year anniversary of the end of 287(g) in Cobb and Gwinnett counties.

“With 287(g) no longer in force, local jail officials have stopped systemically checking the immigration status of individuals arrested for a variety of crimes – including minor traffic violations – and sharing that information with immigration officials to initiate deportation proceedings” is how the editors at the “watchdog” AJC described the obvious defiance by Gwinnett Sheriff Keybo Taylor and others who ignore this law. The AJC headline was ‘There’s less fear’: Metro Atlanta immigrants feel safer with new sheriffs.’

Kemp’s first TV campaign ad in 2018 was all about ending “sanctuary” polices.

Perdue late to the obvious issue

Candidate Perdue has only very recently resorted to pointing to candidate Kemp’s failure to honor 2018 illegal immigration promises – and has not scratched the surface of this key issue. He’s late but it’s not too late. We say again: Many pro-enforcement voters are straining to hear some educated, detailed, and workable solutions to illegal immigration in Georgia from Perdue.

There is plenty of evidence that offended voters leave some choices blank on the ballot – or stay home.

Perdue can always resort to promising to enforce the many laws already on the books in Georgia aimed at making us less attractive to illegal immigration.

Let’s start with the Gwinnett County sheriff.

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A version of this essay originally ran on the subscription outlet Insider Advantage on April 27, 2020

D.A. King is president of the Dustin Inman Society and proprietor of ImmigrationPoliticsGA.com He has assisted state lawmakers with legislation since 2005.

 

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Republican GA radio host Martha Zoller says Gov Kemp has done everything he promised he would do – except on immigration…”because the situation has changed”

April 5, 2022 By D.A. King

Update 9:10 AM: I adjusted the headline due to a text from Martha Zoller. Replaced “GOP” with “Republican.”

Ending sanctuary cities, “track and deport” and a criminal alien registry not necessary now?

Transcription and audio, Martha Zoller Show, April 4, 2020 (partial) #BrianKemp

I sometimes am able to listen to my friend Martha Zoller on her radio show (9-11 AM weekdays, WDUN -AM) and have been a guest on her show. Martha was a speaker at one of our White House rallies against amnesty when ‘W’ was president.

Today (Monday, April 4) in an interview with the Speaker of the Georgia House, Martha told her audience and Speaker David Ralston that Gov Kemp has done everything he promised he would do in the 2018 campaign. That is not true.

I tweeted as much with a tag to Martha and she replied on the air. My tweet and what Martha said in response is below. It sounds to me that the essence of Martha’s defense of Kemp is that because so many illegal aliens are coming over the border now as compared to 2018 when Kemp ran for governor the first time, that he doesn’t need to honor his 2018 promises on criminal aliens and the legislation he promised to see passed on those “criminal illegals.” Many obedient Republican voters will accept this as reality.

Georgia is home to more “undocumented workers” than Arizona.

Martha Zoller will be the first one to tell you that she has been a paid staffer for both Gov. Kemp and former Senator David Perdue, who is now one of Kemp’s primary opponents for 2022. For the record, as we have said before, Perdue also ignores illegal immigration in Georgia and does not mention Kemp’s defiant betrayal on his 2018 campaign promises. We call it the “#BigTruckTrick.” Led by the liberal AJC editors, most of the Georgia media ignores it. Likewise most Republican groups, but not in Cobb County.

Martha was also appointed to the state school board by Gov.Kemp.

 

Tweet from April 4, 2022

The Martha Zoller Show – WDUN-AM, Gainesville GA.

Link to audio from the Martha Zoller Show, Monday, April 4, 2022

Transcript below from Rev.com

Part 1 (Ralston interview before bottom of the hour break) audio. Relevant text in bold.

https://immigrationpoliticsga.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Zoller-Apr-4-part-1.m4a

Part 2 audio (after break)

https://immigrationpoliticsga.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Zoller.-part-2-Apr-4.m4a

Transcript below from Rev.com

My time: 3 hours. My cost $21.00

Martha Zoller (host): (00:04)
“Now you- when you go out at the end of the day today, whenever that is, um, you- there’s a big task then, uh, after that. There are people running in primaries, there are people that are gonna have, you know, a roughly a month until early voting starts, and then, uh, we’ve got about six or seven weeks until the- ’til the primary. What is the work that needs to be done in order to unite, in our case, you and I are both Republicans, the Republican party. But the Republican party is not the only party with- with some division issues, they’ve got ’em on the Democratic side too. Uh, so what are your thoughts about that going forward?

Speaker Ralston: (00:44)
Well, I- I tell Republicans that, uh, if we’re not united, um, then we might as well be prepared to turn over, uh, state government to the other party. Uh, that would include the Governor’s office as well as one or both of the, uh- uh, legislative chambers. Um- uh, you know, Republicans are, you know, and we are Republicans, you and I, have been for many, many years. Uh, I have been for over 65 years, uh, and, um- uh, but we just have a real, real knack of eating our own and turning on one another, and having these, uh, sort of circular firing squads and… Um, I- I don’t know much about the other party’s divisions, um- um, but- but my sense is, is that they’re not, uh, as deep or as, um, seemingly insurmountable as those we have.

Speaker Ralston: (01:50)
And then the last thing we needed this year was a contested race in a primary against the sitting, uh- uh, Governor, uh, and, um, but, you know, it’s a free country and, uh, we are where we are, so we’ll, uh, tee it up. Uh, we don’t have long to go after today before or, as you say, early voting starts of the primary. It’s not gonna be a, um, a marathon, it’s going to be a sprint, and it’s going to be a very fast sprint.

Martha Zoller (host): (02:24)
—>No, I’m with you on that, completely. We’re gonna- I’m in the process now of laying out these interviews, and I know… And it’s a good thing in many of these races to have opposition, but I’m- I’m with you, um, that we have a Governor that’s done a very good job, that’s done everything he promised he would do and, uh, that’s- the, you know, the primary in that particular race is not helping. But, you know, you and I, I know, will be working hard for our values between now and- and that primary. And the primary is gonna be a ver- May 24th is gonna be a very big day for what people like to call the Trump Republicans versus the establishment Republicans, because Tex- Texas will be having their run-offs, and we will be having our primaries, and it’s gonna tell us a lot about where we are, I think.

Speaker Ralston: (03:12)
Well, you’re exactly right. Um- um, you know, the, um, former President Trump has made the Georgia primary and the… He- he’s made it, this hasn’t been the media, but he has made it, um, the first big test of his, uh, continuing, um, influence over, uh, the Republican party. And if he loses there and he doesn’t do well in Texas, and then it looks like, uh, he’s not going to do well in, um, Alabama. Uh, he’s pulled off of his un- endorsed opponent, or the endorsed, uh, candidate there, a fair chance, uh, or better that he doesn’t do well in North Carolina, then I think people, uh, will start saying, um, you know, maybe, uh- um, maybe the dew’s worn off the rose now.

Martha Zoller (host): (04:06)
Well Speaker Ralston, I know you’ve got a very long day ahead of you, and we appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your time today.

Speaker Ralston: (04:13)
Thank you very much, Martha. It’s always good to be with you and, uh, I hope you get some rest after the session and, um, and- and- and- and I’d- I’d love to come back on, but not until after I get some rest.

Martha Zoller (host): (04:25)
That’s right, you got it.

Speaker Ralston: (04:26)
(laughs)

Martha Zoller (host): (04:26)
I will have you on again soon. Thank you very much, sir.

Martha Zoller (host): (04:29)
We’re gonna take a break right now, and when we come back we’re gonna talk with you, find out what you think. What are you looking for in this, what we call, sine die. We’ll be back.

End of interview with Speaker Ralston, show goes to commercial break.

Return from 9:30 AM break:

Announcer 1: (00:00)
5:50 and FM 102.9 WDUN. (singing)

Martha Zoller (host): (00:09)
That increase in groceries every single week, uh, almost $300 a month. That is absolutely crushing. That is essentially a tax on every American. In addition, energy costs.

Martha Zoller (host): (00:20)
It is the Martha Zoller show. And, uh, you know, what is it that you guys are looking for as you look at this last day of session, are there still bills that you’re looking for? (770) 535-2911, because what’s really interesting about any of this is that, uh, you know, what’s really interesting about any of this is that they could actually gavel out right now. They pass the budget, that’s all they have to do. Um, and you know, I, I think it’s one of those things that people need to be aware of. Um, I think it’s important. So I got this tweet in from D.A. King and I don’t don’t really us- I usually don’t, um, uh, you know, read tweets on the air, but I think because he called me out directly, I will, he says, “Martha Zoller just told listeners and speaker Ralston that governor Kemp has done a very good job of keeping all of his 2018 campaign promises.”

Martha Zoller (host): (01:18)
Um, and, and he put in here, um, uh, some comments from governor Kemp related to immigration policy as governor, conservative businessman, Brian Kemp create a comprehensive database to track criminal aliens in Georgia. He will also update the Georgia law to streamline deportation from our jails and prisons. Uh, Donald Trump was right, we must in sanctuary cities and he goes on and talks about some other things.

Martha Zoller (host): (01:43)
Where I would disagree with D.A. about his, his, you know, belief. And he’s entitled to that belief, uh, that, uh, governor Kemp has not kept promises on immigration is that the immigration issue has changed as this session, as this governor’s term has gone on. So what is necessary is different than what he promised in 2018. He has been working with the Tex- with Texas, with putting National Guard on the border to try to help stem the tide of people coming across the border because in my view, the biggest problem is not the things that were mentioned here in this promise that was made in 2018.

Martha Zoller (host): (02:24)
And this is just my opinion. This is not governor Kemp’s opinion. Although I’ve asked governor Kemp this question when he’s been on the program and he will be on again tomorrow, and I will be talking to him about this, but there are these issues that, um, have changed. And you have seen that the governor has responded to immigration issues as they relate to sex trafficking and human trafficking and people that are coming across the border. No, it is not exactly what he promised in 2018. But if, if the situation changes and the people coming across the border have changed, then you’ve got to adapt to that.

Martha Zoller (host): (03:01)
Now, D.A.’s gonna disagree with me, and that’s perfectly fine. Okay. But I think sometimes you have to amend what you promised and it doesn’t mean that you didn’t keep your promise. It meant that you saw that you needed something different than what he had originally promised. And he did something different, but D.A. can disagree with me because, hey, we’ve been friends for 25 years talking about this issue and we don’t agree on every single thing. You can join us on the phones at (770) 535-2911. Let’s talk to Chad…”

 

 

 

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Former Republican state Rep David Casas has joined the dollar-first, pro-amnesty side #DavidShafer #TheLIBREInitiativeGeorgia

March 27, 2022 By D.A. King

Photo: The libre Initiative.

 

In an AJC op-ed, Casas pushes multiple amnesty bills and supports ‘Americans last” legislation in Georgia

Updated with photo: Georgia state Republican Party Chairman David Shafer assisting The LIBRE Initiative – Georgia

Former Republican state Rep David Casas is now the director of grassroots operations for the pro-amnesty, leftist Libre Initiative Georgia  (The Freedom Initiative). He has an anti-enforcement column (“Opinion: Georgia must explore immigration reform to keep workforce, economy growing) running at the increasingly pretense free, liberal AJC. It’s a must read.

Photo: The Libre Initiative Georgia Facebook post.

Don’t look for “the other side” in the newspaper. There was a time when the liberal AJC opinion page editor would run an occasional pro-enforcement piece from this writer but now he won’t even run a 165 word letter to the editor. Because too much information.

Related: The AJC is on record promoting open borders and the free flow of labor

The Casas column also runs at the same time as a very similar op-ed in the liberal AJC from the Georgia Chamber of Commerce and Georgia’s Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. It should also be noted here that Casas and the ‘Libre Initiative Georgia’ organized lobbying efforts for the failed SB 601 that would have allowed state payments to illegal aliens for private school tuition while illegal alien parents would have been in charge of disbursement of those taxpayer dollars.

Republican Casas’ 618-word opinion column promotes not one, but three amnesty bills now pending in congress while two million-ish illegal aliens have come over U.S. borders since Pres. Biden was sworn in.

He goes further and tosses out a Hail Mary promo for Georgia’s HB 932 which is as dead as Pancho Villa unless some Kamikaze GOP lawmaker tries to add its language and intent to a live bill before the end of the 2022 legislative session. We hope that happens for the educational value of seeing who’s who on floor votes – and to see if Gov. Kemp would allow it to become state law.

Readers may remember that HB 932 is the bill from outgoing Republican Woodstock Rep Wes Cantrell that would have altered state law that says all new Georgia residents must live here for a year before they are eligible for the much lower instate tuition rates in our public colleges. The bill, now endorsed by David Casas, would eliminate the waiting period for refugees, certain Afghan citizens and foreign nationals who have been awarded a “Special Immigrant Visa.” That group would be able to access the lower tuition rates the day they arrive in Georgia. Americans who relocate here from other states would still be required to pay the higher rate if they attend college during their first year of residence.

Related: For academic year 2020-2021, the average tuition & fees for Colleges in Georgia was $4,739 for in-state and $17,008 for out-of-state.

Photo: The Libre Initiative Georgia Facebook post. *2nd from left, Georgia Republican Party chairman, David Shafer

Readers may also remember that Republican House Speaker Pro Tem Jan Jones was a signer on HB 932 but scratched her name off after we made the contents of the legislation public.

Photo: LinkedIn.

Cantrell, with cosponsors Republican Rep. Kasey Carpenter and an assortment of Democrats was put up to this little caper with the joint effort and partnership between the increasingly powerful refugee industry and the real power at the Gold Dome, the Georgia Chamber of Commerce.

But wait, there’s more!

Casas also advances the “logic” of legislation like Carpenter’s HB 120 to grant public college instate tuition to illegal aliens living in Georgia while charging U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who come to Georgia schools from other states pay three times as much.

Conservatives should talk about it.

Two things to insure there is no confusion:

David Casas and the Libre Initiative of Georgia are pushing for Americans to have less freedom and fewer rights in Georgia than foreigners.

I will be happy to respectfully debate this fact and the ‘Americans last’ agenda Casas is promoting in the liberal AJC with him or friend of the Libre Initiative Georgia, Republican Chairman David Shafer if any Georgia “conservative” groups want to arrange that situation. We predict that will never happen.

Casas’ guest column in the liberal AJC a week before the end of the session illustrates the endless determination of dollar-first, bipartisan Establishment to do a repeat of the failed amnesty of 1986 and to speed once bright red Georgia further downhill towards becoming the California of the Southeast.

To be clear: They will never stop and yes, it really is all about the money.

I am wondering – am I the last one to know about David Casas’ transformation?

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Senator Butch Miller on Martha Zoller Show, March 25, 2022 Re: HB 87 in 2011

March 26, 2022 By D.A. King

 

 

Candidate for Lt. Governor, Senator Butch Miller on the Trump agenda and his role in HB 87 in 2011. 

Sen. Butch Miller, sponsor, SB 601. Photo: Ga General Assembly

Below is a transcript of part of the radio (Access WDUN) interview Martha Zoller did with Sen Butch Miller, March 25, 2022. here is the audio and a link to the entire seven-ish  minute interview.

https://immigrationpoliticsga.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/butch-miller-martha-zoller-march-25-2022.m4a

We think Martha does good work.

 

Martha Zoller (host): (00:00)

‘…[inaudible 00:00:00], um, uh, you know, I, I think we’re pa- We’re getting past that, and I don’t think that Donald Trump- Donald Trump was asked not to come to Virginia in the governor’s race, and he, he had complied with that wish, didn’t come. Virginia had a positive message, and they ended up electing a Republican governor. You know, I have said- I said in the AJC yesterday, if he is negative and fore and backward looking, then he doesn’t help these candidates that he says he wants to help.

Butch Miller: (00:28)
A-, absolute that’s the case. And, you know, before they were, uh, Trump policies that, that they’re all talking about, they were Butch Miller policies. And matter of fact, we passed, uh, uh, I particularly passed, uh, legislation in the Georgia chamber that, that President Trump picked up and passed on a national basis to our federal employees when we talked about, um, family, uh, access, family leave, uh, low taxes, uh, those kind of things. Those are things that I have been worked on for years now and not, not gonna stop.

Butch Miller: (01:00)
And, uh, you know, we, we talked, he talked about immigration, making sure we had immigration control. I, I was part of passing House Bill 87, which was the strongest immigration bill in the history of the, of the United States. No one has more … No one has a stronger immigration bill than Ho-, House Bill 87. Uh, so I’ve been working on those issues for years on the state level. On the federal level, they picked up those very same issues. And I think-

Martha Zoller (host): (01:27)
Absolutely.

Butch Miller: (01:28)
… that’s [inaudible 00:01:28] you know, what, what is it? Uh, intimidation is the gra- Uh, excuse me. Imitation is the greatest compliment. And, uh,-

Martha Zoller (host): (01:33)
That’s right, greatest-

Butch Miller: (01:33)
… so that’s what we’ve done.

Martha Zoller (host): (01:35)
… form of flattery. Butch Miller,-

Butch Miller: (01:37)
[crosstalk 00:01:37]

Martha Zoller (host): (01:37)
… if people wanna help you in your campaign, how can they do that?

Butch Miller: (01:40)
Uh, butchmillerforgeorgia.com and, uh, that’s the website.

 

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