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Radio host asks senate candidate about amnesty and allows that we need to “update” our legal immigration system

The below is a transcript (Rev.com) of the October 11, 2021 radio interview on WDUN – AM.

Scroll down to about half-way to see relevant exchange in bold.

Here is my June, 2021 write up on the fact that Georgia Ag Commish and senate candidate Gary Black told a U.S. Senate panel that the U.S.should legalize blackmarket labor farm workers with a work permit – and require them to stay in the Ag industry to keep that new legal status. Here is a July note on former Gov. Deal’s support for Black.

Martha Zoller has not invited me on her show to refute Black’s denial that he has proposed amnesty for these illegal aliens and she has not mentioned the indentured servitude angle. We are blacklisted cancelled in Georgia media. Even the “conservative” media.

*Don’t miss the part further down in which Zoller assures listeners and her candidate guest that we need to “update” our legal immigration system – is she advocating for an increase in numbers?

–>As is his habit when reality pops up on his amenity position, Black struggled to change the topic to H2A visas. We urge voters to hit the above write up link and see exactly what he told the same senate to which he wants to be elected.

Visa overstays not included.                               

We also note that neither Black nor Zoller told listeners that about half the illegal aliens in the U.S. today did not enter the U.S. illegally.

The Martha Zoller Show

October 11, 2021

Host Martha Zoller: (00:00)
“Gary Black……  and he’s with me on the phone. And unlike, uh, President Joe Biden, who in his more than 50-year career, has never been to the U.S. border, uh, Gary Black ha- is… just came back from a trip to the United States border. Um, Gary, thank you for being with me today.

Gary Black: (00:17)
Think about this, Martha, we started talkin’ to each other on the regular 16 years ago. There’s a lot of [inaudible 00:00:24] we thought about, but none more serious than this. It’s- it’s been a very interesting weekend.

Host Martha Zoller: (00:29)
So, just give us an overview of what you did, what you saw while you were down there.

Gary Black: (00:34)
Well, very fortunate with some- some good contacts, uh, with customs, and border patrol, and the Texas Farm Bureau, and, uh, good friends there. Just said, “Look, we’ll- we’ll, uh…” Not a- not a, uh, a- a- a clean briefing. We- we wanna get in vehicles and let’s- let’s go see real activity. I was very fortunate over a period of about 36 hours to do that. We spent a good bit of Friday night on the border as close as 150 yards from the, uh, from the Rio Grande to the back paths where, uh, individuals seeking, you know, to gain entrance into, uh, into our country. You know, they pay $8,000 on the Mexican side to get in- into a boat, or a raft, or something, and then they’re ferried across, uh, and- and then we were able to see, uh, then just firsthand, Martha, literally, walking, uh, into freedom and into what has been created, uh, by the Biden and- and Warnock administration, uh, as I- I- I believe it is, uh, that way.

Gary Black: (01:36)
It’s a welcome center. We’ve set up a welcome center underneath, uh, one of the bridges there connecting Mc- McAllen, Texas, uh, to Mexico, and, uh, in just an hour and a half, we- we encountered 44, uh, women, infants, children, men, uh, just, uh, casually walking. No fear. No fear whatsoever. I was with, uh, [inaudible 00:01:59] folks, and, uh- uh, representatives of their, uh, employees union, and just, uh, no feat whatsoever. Just walking straight in, uh, and, uh, and it’s just, uh… It- it is far worse than any of us can even see on- on FOX News or anything, and- and that’s my- my personal experience.

Host Martha Zoller: (02:18)
So, what’s the answer? I mean, what… You know, if you’re elected to the United States Senate-

Gary Black: (02:23)
Yeah.

Host Martha Zoller: (02:23)
… what are you gonna try to do to fix this?

Gary Black: (02:26)
Fir- first of all, we’ve gotta turn, uh, to, uh- uh, President Trump’s policies were correct, and we had- we had put- put some, uh, other- other folks that just told us, you know, the wall was working but then the return to Mexico, the- the- the deportation was working because it was removing the incentive. We have to remove the incentive for people to just casually walk in and invade our country. So, the incentive is, uh, you know, I get to sign up. I get [inaudible 00:02:56]. I’m… I’ll tell you what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna reunite with someone who’s already here illegally, ’cause that’s- that’s what they were- they were telling us. Uh, sometimes, uh, what they see is men come, gather, and- and- and they pay their entrance. They find employment, uh, and then wind up, uh, sendin’ for wife and- and children, and then 30 days walk from Nicaragua.

Gary Black: (03:20)
We- we encountered one lady with a terrified, I would say, five-year-old little girl out in the middle of nowhere in the dark. Th- they very likely were being re- reunited with someone else who was- who was already here illegally, so we… I think what we have to do, Martha, is- is those folks that are here need to be turned around immediately. There needs to be immediate deportation. We- we have to stop… We have to… It’s not just a matter of turning it off, turning the end of the faucet down. We’ve got to seal the border.

Gary Black: (03:52)
Right now, the United States of America, Mc- McAllen, Texas, and I suppose all across that sort of… We do not have a border, in my opinion. And so, establishing a firm border stop, secure our country policy. Anything short of that is derelict. That’s what we’re seeing out of this president. That’s what we’re seeing really out of… I- I [inaudible 00:04:14], you know, Senator Warnock, Senator Ossoff, the entire democratic, uh- uh- uh, delegation from the state of Georgia, I [inaudible 00:04:23]. I’d- I’d like to invite to host ’em. I’d- I’d love to take ’em down there, uh, and- and just see. Because we’ve gotta work together to solve this problem for our country.

Host Martha Zoller: (04:36)
Now, you probably better than anyone understand the need we have for certain types of agricultural workers and other kind of temporary workers. And you know that they… You’ve seen the criticisms of you. There are people out there that say that, you know, you are in favor of amnesty, uh, as it relates to that. And I know that that… I wanna give you a chance to answer that, but also, to- to show people or to tell people because you’ve been working with this issue of having to get the right mix of workers into this country for particular jobs for a very long time. 

Gary Black: (05:07)
Yeah, uh, thanks, Martha, because all those statements are, uh, first of all, false and foolish. And, uh- uh- uh, I’ve never been for amnesty. Uh, do we have, uh, do we have to have… And this issue, and H-2A, and those type of guest worker programs are two completely different subjects. I mean, they’re- they’re not even connected. Uh, Georgia’s- Georgia’s the largest user, uh, largest persistent… participant in the federal, the- the legal work of guest worker programs, which a- a lot of people want to do. A lot of produce- producers need, uh, access to such a program where people do work and then they go home, and there still needs to be some revisions of that program, uh, that… to make it- to make it better, but what we’re talkin’ about is the illegal invasion of our country right now. 

Gary Black: (05:59)
I- I saw it, and we’re not talkin’ about Mexicans there either. We’re talkin’ about Nicaragua, uh, Guatemala, uh, the Middle East, and then what is horrifying and- and some briefings I received on- on- on Saturday, a- a tremendous influx in Chinese. From all over the globe because they know the poorest nature of this- of this- this border, so, uh, those… That needs… It- it has to be stopped. It has to be stopped now, Martha, or our- our [inaudible 00:06:30] community in Georgia and America’s in jeopardy.

Gary Black: (06:34)
We- we encountered one gentleman, uh- uh, walkin’ up, uh, in one of the groups in, uh, like- like a- a [inaudible 00:06:41] Atlanta Braves hat, so, uh, let your- let your mind wonder rec- you know, wonder where he’s headed.

Host Martha Zoller: (06:46)
Yeah. Yeah.

Gary Black: (06:46)
And- and- and he could be- he could be a new- a new fan during the- during the playoffs for all we know, but [crosstalk 00:06:54]

Host Martha Zoller: (06:54)
Well, you know, when- when Senator Pur-

Gary Black: (06:56)
(laughs)

Host Martha Zoller: (06:57)
When Senator Purdue was in, um, office, he, along with Tom Cotton, introduced something called the RAISE Act where it took a look at-

Gary Black: (07:05)
Yeah.

Host Martha Zoller: (07:05)
… legal immigration and what needed to be done. Because, you know, as you know, we’ve got huge backlogs in the H- H-2A and H-1B visa-

Gary Black: (07:14)
Yup.

Host Martha Zoller: (07:14)
… green cards… You know, people apply for green cards because there’s a two-prong problem, right? I mean, there’s the number one thing, you’ve gotta secure the border. You gotta stop the inflow coming in. If you don’t do that you can’t do anything else. And then we’ve got a legal immigration problem that needs to be updated that really has not been updated since 1986.

Gary Black: (07:34)
Yeah, I- I look- I look forward to being a part of that solution. There- there- there are a lot of ideas out there, and- and probably… that we’re- we’re… This morning is not- not sui- suitable talk about it. We can talk about it in the future, but what- what we have to stop the incentive right now, Martha. That- that is the danger to the country is the incentive and the, uh, absolute lack of fear to just simply walk in. You know, they’ve- they’ve lost… have- have… I was with a- with a- with an agent Friday night who said… you know, who touched- who touched the human side of this, and he- he- he had to pick up a- a dead nine-year-old boy who had walked around aimlessly in, uh, between the river and this, uh, and this- this, uh… I called it the welcome center. Uh, because he just couldn’t find his way. CBP’s actually put… posted arrows now to show you- show you the way to the welcome center.

Host Martha Zoller: (08:28)
Wow.

Gary Black: (08:30)
Uh, ’cause this little- little kid had died of dehydration. And, you know, that… there is a human… There’s no doubt a human side of that, but in order to have the- the human side of- of protecting America, we have to stop this now. Remove the incentives then in tandem work on wh- wh- what… Do we need talent? Do we need, uh- uh, those types of folks that would like to live here? ‘Cause we- we are a nation of immigrants. There should be a process that people follow, and- and- and we should be selective. We should be able to, uh, you know, to engage in that process, as opposed to rollin’ out the red carpet, putting you in the queue line to gather your goods, sign up for free stuff, and then get in- get in a taxi or somewhere and- and go- and go to who knows where.

Gary Black: (09:24)
One- one of the farmers- one of the farmers, Martha, we were in a cornfield that’s in between the Trump wall and the river. And I- I was right there in the cornfield. He said, “We were harvesting corn back in July, and it was like, uh…” And these would be my words, like the Field of Dreams. The- the- there were… These illegal entrants were walking out of the- out of the cornfield and had already somehow been able to get in contact with- with individuals here that obviously they knew. They were hoppin’ in taxis, avoiding the welcome center, avoiding, uh, custom and border patrol, comin’ out of the cornfield like the Field of Dreams, hoppin’ in, uh- uh, transportation, and who knows where they are today. The federal government does not.

Host Martha Zoller: (10:14)
The federal government doesn’t know. States don’t know what people are coming and how many are coming. States don’t know how they’re coming. And, you know, Gary, I know you’re in this process and you’ve got to run a Senate race the way the process is today. But senators do not… are not beholden anymore to the states they came from. They get more involved in being a part of their caucus and doing what the caucus wants them to do. And there’s some guilt on both sides of this, and… Rather than saying, “My first priority is to Georgia. My first priority is to Texas,” Virginia, wherever they’re from. That’s what the founders intended.

Gary Black: (10:52)
It’s exactly, and it’s not… It was never intended to do this so that you could do something else, and that’s one thing as a United States senator I… This is a journey that, uh, I, you know, I see that needs to be taken, and my family, we are- we all in, uh, to try to go fix some things for this republic. I believe this republic’s worth saving, but- but it’s not a, uh, it’s not a joyride [inaudible 00:11:18] to play along so you get to do something else, for me. Uh, I- I think you know that and I- I- I’ve always stood for Georgia. I’m the… I’ve told the Trump administration, uh, what I think… what I thought about, uh, some trade issues, uh, and- and, uh, and- and other things.

Gary Black: (11:36)
And sometimes I agreed, and sometimes I didn’t, but that… I- I… Even- even in the past, you know, previous four years, I’ve stood up for Georgia, uh, even when that wasn’t cool. So, uh, it’s- it’s time that we- we put this as a top priority for national security, for domestic security, for security of our jobs and or economy, and security of the heart of the nation, which is the Constitution. Martha, they’re all in jeopardy because of this poorest… our- our lack of will, uh, to- to- to secure, uh, the border of the United States of America, and it’s gonna be a priority when I’m in the United States Senate in Georgia.

Host Martha Zoller: (12:15)
Gary Black, tell folks how they can get in touch with you and help you with your campaign.

Gary Black: (12:19)
Thanks a lot, Martha. Votegaryblack.com. Since we, uh, last talked, I… we’ve got some wonderful new resources there, and, uh, follow us on- on all the social, uh, social media, uh, platforms, and please, you know, let’s get this word out. We’ve got some very interesting and more to come, uh, this week from a video standpoint and other social media reports this week. Help us get this out, folks. Let’s secure the border and secure it now. Thank you, and God bless.

Host Martha Zoller: (12:45)
Thanks, Gary Black.

Being that she has pushed similar goop for a large part of the year so far, we’ll be quite interested to hear what Kemp Republican and radio show host Martha Zoller has to say about the amnesty the Democrats perpetrated  yesterday.  Having been extremely busy with pro-enforcement matters under the Gold Dome, I haven’t tuned in to Zoller in quite a while. The guess from here is that she slowed down her relentless push for amnesty when Nikki Haley dropped out of the GOP race for president. But maybe not.

For those readers who haven’t heard Martha Zoller’s guidelines for which illegal aliens would be eligible for legalization you can see here and here and here and here for a sample (don’t miss the repeated premise that Gov. Brain Kemp betrayed his promise to go after illegal immigration in Georgia because the number of illegal aliens increased so much after he was elected). The basics of the Martha Zoller amnesty plan include illegal aliens with ITINs, illegal alien DACA recipients, and illegal alien”families” that have been able to dodge nearly non-existent efforts at deportation for twenty-ish years (it varies) should be legalized.

Martha refers to Americans who fight any amnesty as “hard liners.” We note that those “hardliners” include a large majority of Americans, including Hispanic Americans. Most people do not agree with Martha Zoller on her push for amnesty.

• Related reading: Illegal immigration’s biggest losers? America’s poor.

We hope to be able to listen in and see what Martha says about the Biden amnesty – here’s a fact sheet on that event from the Immigration Accountability Project in Washington D.C.

Like the proposed Martha Zoller amnesty, Biden’s executive action will likely add a lot of voters to the Democrat’s rolls in the near future.

The below is from the Martha Zoller Show on WDUN radio Feb. 14, 2024

I hadn’t had time or inclination to listen to Martha for weeks but had to catch her today after Gov. Kemp made his big splash announcement about sending more GA National Guard troops to the Texas border. She didn’t disappoint – she’s still pushing amnesty for illegal aliens and still trying to convince people that illegal immigration has gotten so very bad that Kemp had no choice but to abandon his duty and oath of office to enforce the state laws aimed at illegal immigration here in Georgia.

That apparently includes the two laws against sanctuary policies. For our many new readers, see here to get an idea.

Transcript by Rev.com

My cost: $40.00 and about 2 hours.

Republican radio show host Martha Zoller:

It is the Martha Zoller Show. There are there seats currently, uh, unfilled, uh, in the United States Congress, that’s why sometimes when you look at the numbers, the total numbers, they don’t add up to 435. Um, one of those people were replaced by a Democrat last night, um, and, you know, Trump, President Trump comes out and says because, uh, Mazi Pilip would not endorse him, that’s why she lost and then there was a big old snow storm that came in. And it’s very easy to say after somebody lost, you know, that you’re the reason why they lost. It’s also easy to say that if somebody wins, you’re the reason why they won.

Um, I do think there’s some merit to, uh, Mr. Suozzi said related to running around for Trump instead of running the country. Now, look, I don’t, I’m not a Democrat, I don’t think like a Democrat, but I have had a number of elected officials who are Republicans in the last two weeks express concern about the fact that, uh, eh- I don’t wanna say, “About the fact,” about the reporting that President Trump is intervening in legislation that is being heard on the House. So I, I’m gonna ask the question, okay, and I’m gonna talk to Andrew Clyde later on in the program, they’ve gotta conference meeting, uh, this morning, began at 9:00, the House conference, and so we scheduled him for 10:45 because he thinks by then the meeting’ll be out ’cause he wanted to be on today.

Uh, so we’re gonna ask him this question is that, is that I want the Congress of the United States, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, to govern between now and November 3rd or 5th or 7th or whatever, every day. I want them to govern. I do not want them to block things because the person who might be the nominee for the party, I don’t care if they’re Democrats or Republicans, doesn’t want them to do it. I, and I don’t want to believe that there were things that were blocked because of that. I think it was right to block the legislation that had only or had border or had some kind of border, I mean, it really wasn’t border security. It had this border package, let’s call it, in it, along with foreign aid and it wasn’t what Republicans wanted.

But what needs to happen is you pass a version in the Senate which will probably happen today, okay? Then when the House takes up that version, instead of saying, “Dead on arrival,” you add back in what you want in the version that you pass. Then it has to go back to the Senate and then eventually you gotta go to a conference committee. That’s what should happen because we, you know, border security, and this is something I’ve come, come to, is border security is no immigration policy, okay? Securing [inaudible 00:04:03] reforming immigration policy because the border should be secure regardless of what your immigration policy is. Okay? So it should be separate. So that’s one of the things that I’m looking at.

Also, ah- there’s this group of people out there that don’t like me very much and that’s okay, you know? And it’s ironic because it’s a group of people that I’ve helped raise a lotta money. I’ve done a lot of things for them over the years related to their issues. But they have decided that I have become a pro-immigration person. And look, I am pro-immigration from the stance of legal immigration, okay? But I am as strongly anti-immi- illegal immigration as I ever was, but I also do acknowledge there are different groups of people that have been here doff lengths of time. I acknowledge that the average American, when they moved here as a kid, who maybe now is 35 years old, but got brought to the United States by their parents when they were two to 10 years old and now they’ve lived here for 25 years and they have no path of citizenship, those are called the DACA kids.

This is why Donald Trump, in his first month, well, not first month, it was April of 2017, he offered to Nancy Pelosi amnesty for the DACA kids and for their parents, which was more than what she asked for, okay? Donald Trump did this and I said it was a good idea at the time. I still think it’s a good idea. Donald Trump offered the DACA kids and their parents, in exchange for $5 billion for the wall and she wouldn’t do it. It was a good deal. It was a very good deal. It was a better deal than she was ever gonna get because she was playing politics. Our answer to that should not be, “Then we’ll play politics harder than they will.” Our answer to that ought to be, “We are going to govern.” So what ought to happen is one side passes something, the other side passes something, to get together with a conference committee, then they come up with something they have to both pass or reject because that’s the way the system works. The system should not be everything’s dead on arrival. No to everything is not a policy. No to everything is not the way to do something. So we’ve got a lotta work to do.

So this particular group that’s not very happy with me had their big break with me came over the fact that I believe that the issue of immigration changed after Governor Kemp was elected and that he had to approach it differently, and that he has adjusted that approach up to and including National Guard on the border with Texas, supporting Texas and all the things that they do, and up until yes- you know, including yesterday, talking about how he’s going to help Texas and help immigration policy. The immigration issue changed, he had to change his approach. But we ought to all be on the same page as far as illegal immigration. It is Martha Zoller Show and we’re always here, always local.

a little later in the show:

Martha Zoller:

I’m gonna call them friends even though they’ve been pretty mean to me lately. Um, but I did. I will tell you, they are the only two people I’ve ever blocked on Twitter. Uh, unless if you use profanity, um, I will probably block you on Twitter also. I just… If, if you go as far as using the F word in a post, I generally avoid to block you. But and that’s… Those are people I don’t know, because why do I need to see you in my feed if I don’t know you? But, uh, there’s a couple of people that I have blocked, and it’s because they just keep attacking me and lying about me. And I don’t really care if they put it out there for other people to see, honestly, because I know what the truth is and anybody who knows me knows what the truth is. Uh, but, uh, I don’t have to see it in my feed. I’m being a lot more intentional in what I do on social media and what I- I’m a part of.

But, um, I just don’t understand the frustration with Governor Kemp related to immigration policy. Georgia still has some of the toughest immigration policy in the country. Uh, he has… I think the immigration problem and I think anybody who’s being objective and looking in a mirror will tell you that we had immigration pretty much under control in the… 2018, 2019, 2020. Uh, those are the first three years of the governor’s term… or 2019 and 2020 were. And then, we… everything went out of control related to Biden and the game had to change. And what I mean by that is what we did had to change. It couldn’t be a newly [inaudible 00:01:38]… Everybody talks about that ad he ran in the primary where he said, “I’ll round up illegal immigrants in my truck and I’ll deport them.”

Okay, first of all, I never liked that ad, I was on that campaign, because the governor cannot depot people, okay? It’s only the federal government that can depot people, and there are 1.5 million people that have been adjudicated by the system and are supposed to be deported that the Biden administration is not supporting, okay? So it is the federal government. We should not be angry at our governors, we should be angry at the federal government about this. We got to be mad at the right people if we’re gonna accomplish things. And I know that goes against what I’ve said related to not being mad at everybody. But I mean, using mad in the generic term, opposing, you know, making sure that you’re, you’re aligning with people who are on your side in order to get better policy from the other side. That makes sense.

Anyway, so my friend, Libby, who’s been friends with me since high school, uh, sent me this message saying, “You have a lot of support on your approach to legislation. I had to laugh at the newly-elected congressman’s comments about Republicans shouldn’t fall in line behind Trump. Didn’t the Democrats perfect that? And this guy will fall in line with Biden as well when he gets there.” At that, you know what, you are absolutely right, Libby. And I’ve been perfecting this thing that I’m gonna say on the George Gang, um, [inaudible 00:03:16] because I know I’m gonna be asked to denounce something that Trump did. Okay, every week I get, I get asked… Every week I’m on I get asked to denounce something that Trump did. And my answer to them a couple of weeks ago was, “Look, I’m not… you know, I’m… Nobody’s my candidate. I- I’m supporting someone else in the primary, so I don’t really care.” But I get tired of being told, “Are you gonna be on the, quote, ‘right side of history’ and stand up against Donald Trump?”

Are you gonna be on the right side of history and stand up against the guy that can’t put his sentence together and Joe Biden? The fact that any Democrat is asking any Republican, any Democrat that is still supporting Joe Biden and then is criticizing a person for supporting Donald Trump, there’s a word for that, and that’s disingenuous. Okay, there’s a word for that, and that is hypocritical. Okay, there is a word for that, and that is lunacy. All right, if you’re sitting there saying, “Oh, people, the economy’s really good and the people are really good and the things are really good,” what your lying eyes are seeing is just not true. But conversely, we have to do the same thing, okay? If we don’t want our candidate, meaning Republicans, to get involved in local politics, which, let’s look, I tell you what, Brian Kemp just gets better every day. Because he’s never said a bad word about Donald Trump. He has never said… He has, He has threaded that needle along with Glenn Youngkin properly better than anybody to be able to do what’s right.

Because there’s a guy named Larry Hogan, who was the governor of Maryland… Republican governor of Maryland. Very conservative guy. He’s gonna run for Senate. The people… The Democrats are really worried about that, uh, because, um, he’s very popular, and he’s very popular in a blue Maryland state because, wait for it, he did the right thing. He communicated well with people. He did the right thing. That is singly what I like the most about Na-, about… Um, I almost called her Nancy Pelosi like Trump did, so I guess I’ve got problems too. Anyway, Nikki Hayley. Here’s what I like about her. Go back and look at her debate performances, okay? She lays out what her positions are, whether it’s about spending or about national security or about abortion, and then she says what the numbers are of the situation we’re in right now. Because it’s all well and good to have a, a firm position on the things that you stand for, okay? But then you also have to understand, in a republic, for we have a representative democracy, that you have to then convince a majority of your colleagues to vote for something. Which means you’re not going to get everything you want, okay?

Now, if you want to change that, then elect more Republicans to the House and elect more Democrat Senate. The Democrats actually have the worst Senate math that they’ve had in 40 years. Now, we can screw it up, okay, but we should pick up a bunch of seats in the United States’ Senate this time, and they’re worried about that. That’s why they’re trying to get us off our game. But I understand this argument conversely that time and time again we have given Republicans the majority and they haven’t acted like Republicans. And I’m not talking about this two-seat majority they got right now, okay? I’m talking about 30 seats or five or six in the Senate. I’m talking about a real majority, okay? I understand that we’ve given Republicans that a couple of times in the last 25 years and they didn’t really do anything with it, okay? So… And we also have to understand that within the Republican caucus there are very conservative Republicans, which are about 30%, there are more moderate Republicans, or… I don’t wanna call them moderate. I’m gonna call them by anybody else’s definition conservative, because there are some real conservative people in the caucus that would call these people conservative. But anybody from the outside looking in would be… would, okay?

And then there are the people that are the, the left-leaning Republicans that are in districts that Joe Biden wants, okay, so they’re concerned about certain things. You’ve got to wrangle all those people and get them on the same page if you’re gonna pass anything. You can have one or two defections. If you do… If you have more than that right now, that’s like a darn… I almost said bad word, Logan. That’s like a darn tightrope you got to walk on. One wrong step and you fall through the net. So we’ve got to start telling the truth about how to get things done, and we’re gonna keep talking about it right here.

About halfway through pecking out this post it occurred to me that Erick Erickson could well be on an appointed, long-term mission to set up acceptance of a “it’s not amnesty!” future senate floor vote or a pro-legalization plank in a 2026 GOP Senate campaign for Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp. That’s how things are done here. If so, we suspect that the occasional, softer, less direct points from Kemp ally Martha Zoller on her Georgia radio show are part of the same plan.

Legalization for illegal aliens is amnesty for illegal aliens.

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Original audio and transcript below.

In a September 28, 2023 (hour 2) broadcast (access entire show podcast here), Republican radio talker Erick Erickson broached the topic of legalization for illegal aliens and said he would support it. For experienced amnesty opponents who remember the 1986 debacle and the talking points from the many attempts at a repeat since then, there wasn’t much new in the Erick Erickson amnesty balloon.

Top of the list for Erickson amnesty are what the anti-enforcement mob has labeled “dreamers.” He put a “whose parents dragged them here 30 years ago…” qualification on it to get the sympathy ball rolling. We assume the “why not support amnesty for the children when many of the millions of illegal border crossers are bringing dreamer replacement children over the border literally every day now?” push will come after the 2026 Senate election.

Next in line for Erickson amnesty it’s (you may have seen this coming)…the parents. In Erickson’s amnesty balloon the eligibility period of avoiding enforcement of immigration law for consideration is 40 years.

Essentially, Erickson is promoting the now worn and ridiculous concept that there are somehow illegal aliens in the U.S. who have not violated any other American laws other than “existing” here. And that amnesty for the illegals who have easily managed to be “undocumented workers” for a long period of time a viable solution to the problem.

Erickson threw in the worn and ridiculous concept that amnesty-again would be a demonstration of “humanity” if the border was secured and somehow “the number of illegal crossings go down to zero” (which is impossible – note to Erickson: run, don’t walk to arrange a trip to the southern border with expert guidance). Again, the early eligibility period example in his amnesty float is for illegals who dodged enforcement for 40 years – and apparently who produced kids.

I suspect that Erickson promotes the idea of legalization without a path to citizenship being fully aware that about ten minutes after any such legalization legislation was signed into law the corporate-funded leftists would be back to screaming in the streets of the remains of the Republic carrying pre-printed placards demanding “citizenship for all!” yada-yada. But, omitting this idea does likely help serve to keep the fact that amnestied illegal aliens do not vote for Republicans and legalization does not produce many new GOP votes out of the equation for a while.

I would go on Erickson’s show and offer a fact-filled, pro-enforcement response  but he has my phone number blocked and will not put me on the air when I do get through to his call screener using another number.

Erick Erickson, Sept 28, 2023 on WSB radio in Atlanta (hour 2)

Both leading Republican candidates for Georgia’s 2022 U.S. Senate race have supported immigration amnesty

A Washington friend asked me to outline what is happening in Georgia with the 2022 race for U.S. Senate related to immigration. I explained that reading the liberal Atlanta Journal Constitution would not give him a full picture.

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The story so far.

Elected in 2010, career Big Ag lobbyist and Georgia’s current Commissioner of Agriculture, Gary Black, went to Washington in 2011 and recommended to a U.S. Senate panel that illegal alien farm labor be legalized. They should be required to remain in the farm industry to keep their renewable work permits, he said.

See here for a link to Black’s Senate testimony.

Gary Black is now a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate to replace pro amnesty Democrat Raphael Warnock.    

Agriculture is Georgia’s largest industry. Republicans control the state Capitol – as much as the Georgia Chamber of Commerce and Big Ag allow.

Georgia media treats Black’s amnesty and indentured servitude advocacy as a closely guarded secret. This includes the uber-liberal Atlanta Journal Constitution.  And some establishment Republican talk show hosts.

Black is the donor class choice for the 2022 Republican senate primary, which is illustrated by the fact that former Governor Nathan Deal has endorsed him. So have about seventy-five Georgia sheriffs and a long list of Republican state legislators – few of whom, we suspect, are aware of his past call for amnesty. We think it likely that few care.

Enter Trump-pushed senate hopeful and now front runner Georgia football icon Herschel Walker who finally announced his own candidacy in late August. Big on “unity,” Walker was slow to put out a real campaign platform or position on “issues” until news broke this week about his past call for immigration amnesty.

Yesterday the liberal AJC ran a story on Walker and a 2015 statement he made regarding amnesty.

“He told USA Today in August 2015 that he supports Trump’s idea of building a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico but disagreed with his plan to deport millions of immigrants living in the country illegally. He also said then that he’d back a proposal that enables such immigrants to earn citizenship” goes the AJC report. Update: Walker on controlling the border and the economy to the UGA College Republicans – January 13, 2022 .

The next day (Oct 19) the AJC political blog (“The Jolt”) reported that Gary Black created and is airing a radio ad hitting Walker for his immigration stance.

As of late October 19, the AJC still has not reported on Black’s amnesty advocacy or the indentured servitude angle. I waited until the daily AJC political blog was posted this AM to put this up. No mention of Gary Black’s call for amnesty. Some news is apparently more news than other news…

It’s a good bet the liberal AJC plans on keeping Black’s secret as long as they can. Meantime, pro-amnesty Democrat incumbent Warnock has (updated amount from “9 million”) $17 million cash on hand.

The Herschel Walker camp has not disputed or backed away from his 2015 comments on amnesty but has put out a statement that includes the below moldy-oldie dodge:

“America is a nation of immigrants, and Herschel strongly supports those who follow the process to legally enter this country,” said Walker campaign spokesperson Mallory Blount. “He has several dear friends who have done so. We have a humanitarian and illegal immigration crisis at our southern border that career politicians have created.

“When you have a leak, you fix it. Any conversations about immigration have to start with finally securing our southern border and Herschel will work to make that happen, unlike our current senators.” – Capitol Beat News Service.

We don’t think the advisors in Walker’s campaign have a clue about visa overstays and that more than half of the illegal aliens in the U.S. today did not come over the border illegally. Voters either. It’s not included in “the news” from the AJC.

Did we mention that Walker is in the race because Trump pushed his candidacy? It is good to see that Walker is urging people to actually vote in the coming election.

Also relevant is an October 4, 2021 AJC story finally breaking the news that some pro-enforcement Georgia Republicans are not happy with the betrayal by Gov Brian Kemp. A large metro-Atlanta area county GOP group censured the Republican Governor for, among other things, ignoring his detailed 2018 campaign promises on illegal immigration.

The agenda-driven AJC editors headline described Kemp’s pledge to go after “criminal illegals” and sanctuary cities as being “anti-immigration.” It helps outsiders understanding of “news” in Atlanta to know that the AJC served as dinner Chair for a MALDEF fundraiser here.

We are desperately seeking pro-enforcement candidates for the U.S. Senate and governor – and refer to our GOP-ruled state as ‘Georgiafornia.’